On Thursday, August 16, 2018, Charles Huijskens was interviewed with journalist Margriet Brandsma in the program Spraakmakers on Radio 1. Charles shared his view on the verdict of the judge in a dispute between DENK and BNNVARA. BNNVARA's De Nieuws BV program had revealed that DENK was considering a fake news campaign to blacken Geert Wilders. But because the recordings that proved this were secretly made, the party had filed a lawsuit. The judge ruled that the program acted lawfully. Is this a victory for journalism in the Netherlands?